Trout was the first person Kobun ordained, was the teacher for 4 sesshins, and then, when he heard the sound of Wakan’s drumming circle, changed his dawn-practice to listening to Tatewari, Grandfather Fire. Now, these years later, zazen is again sitting Trout’s life, and he sees Zen from quite a different perspective than before. His talk will share his perspective of “Returning”, about opening Bayview Zendo in San Rafael, and the questions he is listening to is about the core of Zen Buddhism.